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Hi everyone, i'm new here after having just discovered this American Flangist website yesterday.
My name's Jared and i'm a 20 year old male from Redcliffe, Australia.
I was born to an Australian father (roman catholic) and a Lebanese mother (melkite) from Ras Baalbek.
Many of my mothers family were members of the Kataeb (and LF) especially during the formative years of Pierre Gemayel (founder).
My mothers family came to Australia in the 1940's, after having faced execution at the hands of Muslims. My taita (grandmother) has told me many a story, about her childhood and witnessing organised christian massacres at the hands of Islamic criminals in the Ras.
Unfortunately, the Lebanese reputation here is incredibly diminished because of the criminal actions of Lebanese muslims. Pack Rapes, Assaults on innocents, Gang activities including Car theft and Drug dealing and a myriad of other things.
The sad part is that many young Lebanese christians believe this is the true "lebanese way" to act, and i see many impressionable youngsters trying to follow in these behaviours, ignorant of the suffering of their ancestors at the hands of these rats and the threat to basic freedoms here in Australia.

Islam is getting bigger and bigger here, and the Cronulla riots in 2005 were probably not such a bad thing, as it sent a clear message to Islamic people living in Australia, and that message is that we aren't willing to accept a strong islamic presence here irrespective of how politically correct the rest of the world is.
I do not need to go into the many many reasons Islam is not compatible with western civlization as you're all very aware of them.
Anyway i hope to get to know you all better, God bless.
Jared

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Greetings Jared.  Welcome to you.  In this Falange, every man must be a leader.  That includes you.  You have a special familiarity with the Muslim enemy, therefore your insights are more valuable than most.

God Bless You, keep the faith and stay strong.

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It's a shame the LF and Kataeb in Lebanon don't feel the way you do. Maybe they feel that if they don't condemn Islam then everything will be OK and the Moslems will leave the Christians alone and they can all live in peace and harmony. WRONG!

Let's look at the Christian population in Lebanon at one time it was about 60% today it is what? 30% ?

The Christian have almost all been run out of Palestine because of Moslem persecution, only in Israel can they live in peace yet they still support the Palestinian cause, why? What have the Moslems ever done for them? What have the Moslems ever done for the Christians in Lebanon?

I remember back in the war years when the Christians in Lebanon were practically facing extinction, who came to their aid? Israel did with food, uniforms, weapons, etc.

I have yet to hear the Christians of Lebanon say that Israel has a right to exist in peace or to defend herself from Moslem attacks. The Christians have more in common with the Jews than any Moslem on earth, Jesus was a Jew as were all the other early Christians. The Jewish Holy Book the "TORAH" is part of our Bible, Jews and Christians believe in freedom and fairness not to mention compassion.

As a Catholic I'd rather live next door to a Jew any day than a Moslem and I'd rather live in Israel than any Moslem country that ever existed. The Koran says for Moslems not have Christians and Jews as their friends that in itself should make Jews and Christians friends to each other and at the very least allies.

Death To Islam! Long Live Israel!

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What NCP said is true. The Qur'an is specific about having Christian and Jewish 'friends' and it is written:


O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. (Qur'an Sura 5:51)

I guess the reason why the Qur'an doesn't allow Muslims to be friends with Christians and Jews is because they don't want to hear the Torah and/or the Holy Gospel that will deliver them from their iniquities.

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 *It's a shame the LF and Kataeb in Lebanon don't feel the way you do.

I disagree.  Jared speaks of these crimes committed by Lebanese in Australia which we have even heard of in Canada, do you want to generalize an entire sect of people on these criminals?  We do see the dangers of extreme Islam and terrorists, especially in the Palestinian refugee camps; amongst others things, and these are things that need to be comfronted and worked on to save the few Christians who are still in Lebanon. 


* Maybe they feel that if they don't condemn Islam then everything will be OK and the Moslems will leave the Christians alone and they can all live in peace and harmony. WRONG!

You can critize without insulting, it is called constructive critizism.  Islam is not allowed to be critized.  It's easier to critize Islam and Lebanese Muslims sitting on your kursi in New York then it is to say so in Beirut.  I assure you, many Lebanese do feel somewhat like Jared but keep their feelings towards themselves because inflaming and hatred for your countrymen will bring you no were but war.



* Let's look at the Christian population in Lebanon at one time it was about 60% today it is what? 30% ?

IN 1930's this was the case, recent guesses show Christians (Maronites, Orthodox, Armenian) at around 40% of the population, I agree this is a sad and troubling quo.



* The Christian have almost all been run out of Palestine because of Moslem persecution, only in Israel can they live in peace yet they still support the Palestinian cause, why? What have the Moslems ever done for them? What have the Moslems ever done for the Christians in Lebanon?

I agree but the Palestinians are in Lebanon because they were kicked out of Palestine.  If Israel has so much love for Lebanese Christians they should take them back or have them find a new home, elsewhere, far away from Lebanese borders.  The 400,000 Palestinian Muslim refugees who have been stacking up their numbers since 1948 are the biggest threat to the existence of Lebanon



* I remember back in the war years when the Christians in Lebanon were practically facing extinction, who came to their aid? Israel did with food, uniforms, weapons,
etc.

You forgot that when Israel left Lebanon in 2000 they abandoned many SLA (South Lebanese Army) allies and fed them to the dogs (Hezbollah).  Many were arrested and jailed, others fled to Israel such as Antoine Lahad and he will never be able to return since he and others are deemed traitors by the state.


* I have yet to hear the Christians of Lebanon say that Israel has a right to exist in peace or to defend herself from Moslem attacks. The Christians have more in common with the Jews than any Moslem on earth, Jesus was a Jew as were all the other early Christians. The Jewish Holy Book the "TORAH" is part of our Bible, Jews and Christians believe in freedom and fairness not to mention compassion.

1)  Many Christians will say this from Lebanon, the majority that Israel has the right to exist.  Other Muslims will believe it but they want not acknowledge to you. 

2)  Jesus was a Jew, yes, and also a human being who believes all humans are equal and created in Gods image.   Jews do not recognize Jesus as anything other then a mere false prophet and their actions as stated in the Bible led to the Romans being forced to crucify him.  Christianity means we respect everyone as a human and calls for one to love their enemy.  I, as a Christian see everyone as an individual.  And I, as a Christian see Islam as a dear threat alongside Israel who helps promate chaos and instability in Lebanon

3)  All Christians believe in the Tanachk, Torah, but Christianity begins with the book of Matthew and the New Testament precedes the Old (Torah)



* As a Catholic I'd rather live next door to a Jew any day than a Moslem and I'd rather live in Israel than any Moslem country that ever existed. The Koran says for Moslems not have Christians and Jews as their friends that in itself should make Jews and Christians friends to each other and at the very least allies.

Believe me, I wish Lebanon was an island like Cyprus.

Whatever you prefer, it's not possible in the case of Lebanon.  Muslims and Christians are neighbors, and they will always be neighbors.  I hope for peace with Israel and they will also be neighbors.  Quran also does indeed say that, and it contradicts itself by saying that Muslims are to respect Jews and Christians as "people of the book.."

 

* Death To Islam! Long Live Israel!

 

Very counter productive statement if you are about Lebanon or Israel.  Why don't you write long live Lebanon, oh, I forgot, you are Christian and that's why you say that?

Let me leave you with a bible verse:

"For the violence done to Lebanon will overwhelm you, And the devastation of its beasts by which you terrified them, Because of human bloodshed and violence done to the land, To the town and all its inhabitants.

Habbakkuk 2:17


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[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mo5TNVNB_Dc]NCP wrote:

It's a shame the LF and Kataeb in Lebanon don't feel the way you do. Maybe they feel that if they don't condemn Islam then everything will be OK and the Moslems will leave the Christians alone and they can all live in peace and harmony. WRONG!

Let's look at the Christian population in Lebanon at one time it was about 60% today it is what? 30% ?

The Christian have almost all been run out of Palestine because of Moslem persecution, only in Israel can they live in peace yet they still support the Palestinian cause, why? What have the Moslems ever done for them? What have the Moslems ever done for the Christians in Lebanon?

I remember back in the war years when the Christians in Lebanon were practically facing extinction, who came to their aid? Israel did with food, uniforms, weapons, etc.

I have yet to hear the Christians of Lebanon say that Israel has a right to exist in peace or to defend herself from Moslem attacks. The Christians have more in common with the Jews than any Moslem on earth, Jesus was a Jew as were all the other early Christians. The Jewish Holy Book the "TORAH" is part of our Bible, Jews and Christians believe in freedom and fairness not to mention compassion.

As a Catholic I'd rather live next door to a Jew any day than a Moslem and I'd rather live in Israel than any Moslem country that ever existed. The Koran says for Moslems not have Christians and Jews as their friends that in itself should make Jews and Christians friends to each other and at the very least allies.

Death To Islam! Long Live Israel!






Yes, i do understand where you're coming from.
However...a good number of Lebanese christians feel the same way i do, but their homeland media is very pro-arab and portrays them as another Arab identity that some (much to my dismay) have accepted willingly (possibly out of hopelessness).
The basic principles of agriculture, trade were founded in this region, hence the name "fertile crescent". This is the real identity of the Lebanese Christians.
Definitely not a group of bedouin camel drivers who invaded in the name of Islam.

It would be a deathwish for Christians to rally in support of Israel in their once Christian homeland.

I have always stood in support of the state of Israel and the Jewish people, because once upon a time, we were the Canaanites, the native inhabitants of the Levant, we shared the same land, the same resources, extremely similar languages....even the same DNA.
In fact Hebrew is the closest living relative to the Phoenician language.
But i can say all of this without being in fear of my life. (God bless Australia)
Another good example of that is Brigitte Gabriel.
Some of you may have seen the attached video.
Jared



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Greeting Jared,

It seems the Kanaan is just as liberal as most of the Canadians one day there will be almost no Christians in Lebanon. The Christians in Palestine tried living in peace with their Moslem neighbors and condemning Israel just like the rest but where did it get them?

Kanaan says that the Palestinians living in Lebanon is the greatest threat to that country yet in his entire post he never once mentions Hezbollah, I wonder why?

Only through Christian Resistance can the spread of Islam be stopped and it is not against our religion to resist evil. Kanaan thinks that the CFPA is all about Lebanon or something and that is wrong, we are more than that.

Just because we were influenced by the Kataeb and LF during the Civil War does not mean that we are a carbon copy of those two organizations now. We are also influenced buy Dr. Dollfuss and the Fatherland Front of Austria too. We are about Christian Resistance not just to Islam but liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, pornography, racism, etc.

Yes, we pray for the conversion of our enemies but we must also resist them on the social front as well. We do not assume that all Moslems are like those who commit horrendous crimes and we do not lump them all together but rather we condemn the source of those crimes which is the Koran and Hadith that are the foundations of Islam just as Mein Kampf is the foundation of National Socialism and Das Kapital is to Communism.

I'm glad you are enjoying your freedom in Australia and you know as well as I that if Islam is not stopped down under that freedom will be a thing of the past. Maybe one day there will be a Christian Falangist Part of Australia.

I hope you will be a regular visitor on this forum. Shokran.

Yaheesh Bashir!



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CFPA wrote:

Greeting Jared,

It seems the Kanaan is just as liberal as most of the Canadians one day there will be almost no Christians in Lebanon. The Christians in Palestine tried living in peace with their Moslem neighbors and condemning Israel just like the rest but where did it get them?

Kanaan says that the Palestinians living in Lebanon is the greatest threat to that country yet in his entire post he never once mentions Hezbollah, I wonder why?

Only through Christian Resistance can the spread of Islam be stopped and it is not against our religion to resist evil. Kanaan thinks that the CFPA is all about Lebanon or something and that is wrong, we are more than that.

Just because we were influenced by the Kataeb and LF during the Civil War does not mean that we are a carbon copy of those two organizations now. We are also influenced buy Dr. Dollfuss and the Fatherland Front of Austria too. We are about Christian Resistance not just to Islam but liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, pornography, racism, etc.

Yes, we pray for the conversion of our enemies but we must also resist them on the social front as well. We do not assume that all Moslems are like those who commit horrendous crimes and we do not lump them all together but rather we condemn the source of those crimes which is the Koran and Hadith that are the foundations of Islam just as Mein Kampf is the foundation of National Socialism and Das Kapital is to Communism.

I'm glad you are enjoying your freedom in Australia and you know as well as I that if Islam is not stopped down under that freedom will be a thing of the past. Maybe one day there will be a Christian Falangist Part of Australia.

I hope you will be a regular visitor on this forum. Shokran.

Yaheesh Bashir!




Yes indeed, Islam must be stopped down here....They think that the "kaffirs" are fools, but my family knew their traditions back in Lebanon and how they now rape the Australian social security system.
It seems lately...on a large scale, Muslim men will marry up to 4 wives...However this is obviously illegal in Australia, so they marry behind the scenes, he will stay and support 1 family, whereas the remaining 3 families will apply for social security benefits as "single mothers" who can have up to 10 children each (the more children, the more money received).
1 Father who owns a corner store, cannot support 40 children. and 4 wives. These are the breeding programs that not all (but more than enough) are involved in, and that the majority have to contend with.
I am informing many many people on a daily basis about this in a very personable way. The message seems to be getting through.
Actually, as of yesterday....a Maronite friend of mine, also Lebanese-Australian informed me that at his new University in Sydney...a Protestant denomination i believe...there is a location on campus, specifically to allow Muslims to pray and socialize. I will tell him about this website, and he'll probably begin posting here also.

Jared


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